tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4639421058590597640.post4898975487391254576..comments2023-04-13T02:45:50.515-07:00Comments on The Ends of Thought: The Meme, Ricoeur StyleRoman Altshulerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06570099479055051251noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4639421058590597640.post-139069763581795472008-04-13T08:54:00.000-07:002008-04-13T08:54:00.000-07:00Okay, say you're now a guinea pig for a net-based ...Okay, say you're now a guinea pig for a net-based stochastic study of meme propagation with the original memes sufficiently small and compact (the pass-along stuff) and moving to web-based diversity and complexity. <BR/><BR/>Pick a trope in Ricoeur, say “identity,” and estimate the odds of particular trajectory for the distribution of the Ricoerian meme on “identity.” <BR/><BR/>How many generations will pass before the “meme” is no longer recognizable as originating in Ricoeur? - what standards of parsimony-generosity of scrutiny in parsing the pass-along propagation do you set in tracing the lineage back to Ricoeur? – and, if you allow for mimetic “mutations” at different rates in different media (print book vs. net), and also allow for mimetic mutations to be differentially unequal for different memes (say, the “identity” meme is less resistant to change than the “narrative” meme), so that you have mimetic mutational “hot spots” or “cold spots,” then how do you sort out whether Ricoeur’s readers even understand what they’re passing along? <BR/><BR/>There are most measurable concepts in biology, and ways to test “hidden beliefs” in law and religion; but, at the level of memes, how do you really test for propagation? <BR/><BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>JimJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07674489078935633842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4639421058590597640.post-7764422768342056202008-02-28T17:50:00.000-08:002008-02-28T17:50:00.000-08:00My closest book is Phenomenology and the "Theologi...My closest book is <I>Phenomenology and the "Theological Turn": The French Debate</I> by Dominique Janicaud, et al. Page 123 is within Jean-Francois Courtine's "Introduction: Phenomenology and Hermeneutics of Religion."<BR/><BR/>The appropriate three sentences are:<BR/><BR/>"In terms of what idea, experience or, better, ordeal of truth do we assess or interrogate the 'evidence' of the religious phenomenon thus apprehended in its greatest generality possible? At the very least, we can say: Beyond the evidence of the intended as such--'I can simply look at that which is <I>intended as such</I> and grasp it absolutely. There is no evidence that could ever be superior to this,' Husserl declared in the sketch that serves as preface to the 1913 edition of the <I>Logische Untersuchungen</I>."<BR/><BR/>Since I have not yet begun reading this book, I can only have an empty and extremely indeterminate intention of these three sentences. They do make me salivate, though, and I will get to the book when I've finished with some Tillich and maybe some more Jean-Luc Marion.David Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650300919139654311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4639421058590597640.post-3830093143292689922008-02-26T18:43:00.000-08:002008-02-26T18:43:00.000-08:00This isn't the Ricoeur quotation I would've prefer...This isn't the Ricoeur quotation I would've preferred. What I really don't get about this meme is the point. I think it would be much cooler if the rule was "pick up the book closest to you, find a quote you like, and discuss." Who came up with this thing, anyway?Roman Altshulerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06570099479055051251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4639421058590597640.post-57975976391100244822008-02-26T18:35:00.000-08:002008-02-26T18:35:00.000-08:00I don't know about Blogger, but on Wordpress it's ...I don't know about Blogger, but on Wordpress it's fairly easy to check stats, incoming links, etc. For the time being I like the unpopularity and inactivity of my blog--I think my blog is a lazy Daoist recluse. ;)<BR/><BR/>Nice Ricoeur quotation (the closest I've come to reading phenomenologists was Heidegger on death, which I very much liked). Anyway, have opened the nearest book (Mencius), and all I got was gibberish. So I will try something else perhaps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com